Saturday, December 12, 2009

We all fight for democracy ..
Don't we ? or sleep into it ?


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See what happens during political meetings in PRC......




So Chinese better huh...

This scenario of course reminds us of our previous PM.

12 comments:

  1. Chinese better

    Chinese with Mahathir as bapak, not better

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  2. j3otk. Why no comment on CSL asking for CC to resign in 2 weeks. This is totally undemocratic. This is totally wrong. Where is the natural justice in MCA?

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  3. csl = chinese with mahathir as bapak

    not better

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  4. Anon 11:26

    Not to worry , he's speaking for himself ......

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  5. Sdra ANON 11:26

    "j3otk. Why no comment on CSL asking for CC to resign in 2 weeks. This is totally undemocratic. This is totally wrong. Where is the natural justice in MCA?"

    1. Why did you say "totally undemocratic"?

    I think his action is DEMOCRATIC --let each and every CC member decide, so that we show to the world that we not only practise democracy, but we are also SEEN to be practising democracy....

    2. What "natural justice" are you talking about?

    It is apparent that when each and every CC member is given the freedom to decide...the democratic right and natural justice are all complied with!

    What else do you want from the Special Committee?

    -Hei Bai Dao-

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  6. Sdra Justice4otk wrote,

    "Not to worry , he's speaking for himself ......"

    My comment is the same: "NOT TO WORRY".

    CSL maybe still "on the stage" --playing Chinese Beijing Opera ( 京剧 ) or Teochew Opera (潮剧)!

    I marked your words, Sdra Justice4otk: "Stick to GUP!"

    Every faction is ACCOMODATED and no one is left out --except the recalcitrants who insist on destroying the party (on behalf of their Monstrous Masters)!

    Axed-Journalist

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  7. Ya Axed-Journalist

    This is the gist of it ........Sdra ANON 11:26

    We need opera shows and sideshows to tell them we are practising democracy - let each and every CC member decide, so that we show to the world that we not only practise democracy, but we are also SEEN to be practising democracy....

    No one can deny that later on that OTK is seen to be dictatorial and no one can say later on that when we stick to GUP , we didn't agree to their suggestions or proposal . It's just that they couldn't get CC to resign .

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  8. Read in Malaysiakini that the Indians want Wee Ka Siong to resign. Looks like this fat pig cannot do any right. He is goner in the next election.

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  9. No need to tender resignation. People already help MCA to solve the trouble. The Indian ask Pig Wee resignation comes at the right time. Later comes Fried MeeFun to resign. MCA CC always want both wings to resign totally. So all the trouble is over. GUP is success because only those Trouble Makers are not welcomed. Looking only TWO , and WNC very smart now he just keep quite. WML banned the table also do not want to resign, so all CCM still not understand ? CSL & LTL resignation is Teochew Opera only.

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  10. Where is democracy? Why the Chinese Chambers esp under fatty and ugly william cheng has now becoming so politically driven and side tracked? Step down now, pig head.

    Roger Koh

    森華商會晚宴有人鬧場
    胡雪邦:有喝酒但沒醉
    “我知道自己做甚麼”

    報導:黃慧艷
    (芙蓉12日訊)“我很清醒,我知道自己在做什么﹗”

    昨晚在森美蘭中華工商總會晚宴中,當森州務大臣拿督斯里莫哈末致詞時高喊“Bullshit”的胡雪邦,今日接受《中國報》訪問時,如是指出。

    他承認昨天在晚宴上有喝啤酒,但卻沒醉倒,他清楚知道自己當時所做的一切。

    胡雪邦說,與其說他喝醉酒,不如說這是“餓人發惡”﹗

    他直斥因為大臣遲到,加上主辦單位“奴才”的行為,使到在7時許陸續到場的來賓須苦等一個多小時,直到8時45分才出菜。

    他說,此現象除了讓人看到大臣非親民領袖外,也帶出一小撮華團領導,為了組織或個人議程不顧別人感受。

    胡雪邦認為,若大臣因為祈禱或其他因素必須延遲到場,應事前通知主辦單位預先出菜,勿讓來賓捱餓。

    1人遲到800人苦等

    他說,先前上桌的燒肉若是為了讓來賓在等待的同時能填肚子,不如說該燒肉是要顧及友族的感受,所以要在大臣抵達前上桌。

    “商會方面也不應為了等一個人,視全場800余人為陪襯品,甚至還要當起配角演戲,要拍手迎接遲到的主賓。”

    胡雪邦指出,他是帶著愉快的心情赴會,在進入會場時也向商會董事握手道賀該會歡慶周年紀念,可是大會的安排讓人怨聲載道。

    他說,晚宴似乎在討好大臣外,演講也在批評馬華,試問此晚宴是否真的是要慶祝會慶而舉辦?

    “商會談的應該是國家及州屬發展,如何吸引外資,並非去批評政黨。”

    他說,如果商會因為他的行為而向大臣一個人道歉,那商會是否更應該向在場的800多名捱餓的人致歉?

    不滿男子被拉走才出聲

    曾是行動黨領袖的胡雪邦說,他是以個人身分出席晚宴,並非代表任何一個單位或政黨。

    他說,他也不認識在場質問森州大臣的印裔男子,他是不滿主辦單位強行拉走該男子,所以憤怒站起來高喊。

    他披露,過后有數名身穿西裝及結領帶,相信是商會董事者前來及作出保鑣式行為,其中有人更要他出去外面談判,行徑有如黑社會般。

    他說:“如果我不是胡雪邦,可能也會被拉出去﹗”

    他認為,華團領袖應從此事中自我檢討和反省,是否真的要為了一些議程,選擇連尊嚴都要放下?

    他直指有一小撮華團領導因有議程,如要申請撥款,或是為了得到一些方便,結果要邀請政治領袖出席﹔

    他說,即使要邀請,也不要表現出“奴才”的行為,不顧本身及組織的尊嚴。

    他說,有些華團甚至在邀請名單上都有朝野政黨之分外,就連政黨派系也被考慮在內。

    他指出,如果一個組織心裡“沒有鬼”,就不會在邀客名單上出現“不敢請”某某人的現象。

    拒回應千萬匯款
    才向森大臣開炮

    胡雪邦說,他對大臣拒絕回應1000萬令吉匯款事件悶悶不樂,所以向大臣開炮﹗

    他說,他在站起來時有用英文質問大臣為何把1000萬令吉匯去倫敦,相信是會場太吵,結果大臣沒聽見,所以才高喊“Bullshit”,指他“車大炮”。

    他指出,他之前閱讀州議會的新聞后,知道大臣在州議會內也對匯款一事不表態,也不否認的反應后而悶悶不樂

    他說:“我不懂這1000萬令吉裡是否有包括我的錢,畢竟我也是納稅人,所以大臣要交代﹗”

    他說,大臣至今不解釋被指匯款的事件,這只會讓人民也無法去尊重這名領袖。

    華商之夜大臣致詞
    男子喊話“何為一個大馬”

    森美蘭中華工商總會週五晚慶祝63週年紀念“華商之夜”,大臣致開幕詞途中,談到國民團結及“一個馬來西亞”理念,一名印裔男子在台下喊話,問大臣甚么是“一個馬來西亞”?

    商會理事及大臣保鑣見狀,趕快趨前把印裔男子拉開,避免對方再鬧下去,詎料,坐在席間的行動黨前主席胡雪邦竟站起來,指著大臣沖口罵“Bullshit”(胡說),並重複5至6次。

    有責任回答

    出席者對突如其來的情景感到愕然,商會成員紛紛安撫相信是酒醉的胡氏。

    大臣拿督斯里莫哈末哈山並沒有被滋事者影響,從容地繼續在台上致詞,還在會上為森中華工商總會帶來減少土地費的好消息。

    現場保安人員基于一而再出現有人鬧場的行為,向芙蓉新城警局投報,芙蓉警署主任沙拉尼首席警長親自率警員,守候在會場外,直至大臣離開會場。

    滋事之一的印裔男子湯根較後受詢時聲稱,雖然本身是公正黨黨員,但不是代表政黨出席宴會,而是來自甘榜申達央的普通居民,是買票入場的出席者。

    他表示自己不明白什么是“一個馬來西亞”,要求大臣解釋,大臣有責任向人民講解什么是“一個馬來西亞”,如果大臣無法解答,應該辭去職位。

    詢及為何選擇宴會場合公然喊話,他聲稱沒有其他機會可向大臣提出詢問,就藉著宴會場合要大臣解答。

    李光輝:不應該鬧事

    晚宴籌委會主席拿督李光輝說,不論是酒醉或有意,都不應該在宴會滋事,這對商會不公平,如果是故意鬧事,更不應該,商會將召開會議,檢討可採取的行動。

    “我們譴責這些事的發生,其中一人據說是公正黨黨員,雖然政見不同,但不應該搗蛋。”

    他說,大臣是森州首長,撥土地給商會,也減少土地費,邀請大臣開會沒有錯,不論哪個政黨領袖當大臣都應該尊重,巴生商會也同樣邀請公正黨大臣主持宴會。

    不尊重大會
    商會促滋事者道歉

    森美蘭中華工商總會會長拿督陳維年指出,商會將召開記者會,聲討在“華商之夜”滋事的人,促滋事者道歉!

    他說,滋事者的行為與流氓沒有分別,不尊重大會,也讓商會沒面子。

    “我們是民主國家,怎能像流氓?商會一定會追究到底,要他們道歉!”

    陳維年披露,有人在森大臣致詞途中鬧事,大會控制不到,也感到意外,事情發生後,他當場向森大臣致歉,大臣很有風度,也諒解商會的處境。

    他也澄清,滋事者指責大臣遲到,實際上,大臣根據行程時間,在晚上8時30分准時到場。

    對于今年商會會慶不像去年,有邀請朝野政黨領袖到場,陳維年指出,商會今年沒有邀請政黨,只是邀請一州之長,出席者主要是華商及社團人士。

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  11. Look, you guys have accorded those privileged race too much courtesy.

    Courtesy works both ways. If one is courteous to me I'll do the same in respond.

    But the privilege race? Like that MB? Late for more than 1 hour?

    800 people have to wait until 8:45 before serving the first dish just because of 1 MB?

    Go to hell la !

    If MCA and their Chinese cronies won't change, the Chinese will change.

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  12. “商會方面也不應為了等一個人,視全場800余人為陪襯品,甚至還要當起配角演戲,要拍手迎接遲到的主賓。”

    But this is what MCA is all about !

    他說,如果商會因為他的行為而向大臣一個人道歉,那商會是否更應該向在場的800多名捱餓的人致歉?

    But this is what angkat air is all about !

    Those MCA are nothing but 奴才.

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