Third force in MCA moving to install new team

Third force in MCA moving to install new team ? ? ?
Kong See Hoh

Ong Tee Keat

Chua Soi Lek

KUALA LUMPUR (Sept 29, 2009) : Talk of a 'third force' within the MCA has resurfaced amid intense lobbying by both president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and former deputy president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek as the party's extraordinary general meeting (EGM) draws near.

According to reports in the Chinese press, the third force is gearing up to bring down both Ong and Chua and to install a new team at the helm.

"Its (the third force's) plans are to get the first and second resolutions (vote of no-confidence against Ong and reinstate Chua as a party member) passed but reject the third resolution (reinstate Chua to his party post)," sources said.

They pointed out that the third force is a combination of veterans and the currently neutral faction in the party.

Its members are said to include both former Team A and Team B members such as former deputy president Tan Sri Chan Kong Choy, former secretary-general Datuk Seri Ong Ka Chuan and former vice-president Datuk Donald Lim Siang Chai.

The report said Chan could not be reached for comment but Lim, when contacted, said he had no knowledge of the so-called third force, and quipped that he was just a "small fry".

Lim, who is Petaling Jaya Selatan division chief, added that he is watching the developments in the leadership tussle closely but is not personally involved. He also said the division will make a decision on who to support at the ballot box.

Chan Kong Choy

Sources said the third force's initial plan was to support vice-presidents Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha and Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai as alternative leaders to Ong and Chua but shelved it due its "premature exposure".

However, a pro-Chua central delegate told Oriental Daily that central delegates have a clear stand and said the third force would not have a significant impact on the outcome of the EGM on Oct 10.

EGM Action Committee chief coordinator Datuk Seri Tan Chai Ho also said he had no knowledge of a third force coming into the picture.

Meanwhile, China Press reported that both Ong's and Chua's men, worried that the third force might throw a spanner in the works, are calling on central delegates to make up their mind to either support Ong or Chua.

The daily said the third force commands the support of about 10% of the some 2,400 central delegates who are able to vote in the EGM, big enough to upset both Ong and Chua come Oct 10.

In the meantime, both Ong and Chua have intensified their efforts to win the fence-sitters while making sure they keep whatever support they have already garnered.

Third force no threat to Soi Lek
Giam Say Khoon

KUALA LUMPUR (Sept 30, 2009): The emergence of a so-called third force in the MCA leadership tussle will not affect the chances of suspended deputy president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek in the extraordinary general meeting (EGM) on Oct 10.

Pro-Chua EGM action committee chief coordinator Datuk Seri Tan Chai Ho said today he was not aware of the existence of the third force.

"I believe the delegates will only choose one side to support. Even if there is such a force, it will not be strong enough to cause an impact," he said after attending the EGM coordination meeting chaired by party secretary-general Datuk Wong Foon Meng today.

Asked if the third force was backed by some party veterans, Tan said: "I have no idea. My main task is to meet the delegates and fish more votes. I must let the delegates understand the real situation so that they can make a rational decision in the EGM."

Let's analyse the spins produced by these clowns in SUN or perhaps directed by UMNO ?

Let's take a look at what I have previously written about these so called Third Force

Chua won with Ling's help ? Ha ha ha ha ...that's a great joke . Chua won through the Agong's Sign on paper being distributed to all the key divisional heads . Everyone know that except this reporter . Further it is a known fact that recently his son has been seen going round to certain divisions and delegates carrying what looks like a briefcase full of Sarawakian apples . In Sarawak they give money in fruit boxes , but here in Peninsula Malaysia its the other way round .So does it seem like do they need to call the Rotten Fish Head's help ? When the Small Rotten Fish Head has been going round ?

Chua won because many delegates were disillusioned with the Ong Brothers Sdn Bhd and also with the help from Chua Jui Meng's supporters who didn't like to see a Ong Dynasty taking over . Help from the Rotten Fish Head ? Mua Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!

Today the Sun is spinning Third force in MCA moving to install new team , consisting of former deputy president Tan Sri Chan Kong Choy, former secretary-general Datuk Seri Ong Ka Chuan and former vice-president Datuk Donald Lim Siang Chai.

Can these former leaders wield so much power as to tilt the balance of power to become a force ? Please lah write more creditable and believable stories . The way you people in the SUN write such reports , I say please lah go back to school . You are all writing like novices just out of primary school .

On Chan Kong Choy , from the recent interview by PAC , I think he has better things to do rather than getting involved in politics again . At least he knows when to call it a day rather than someone who does not know when to exit quietly and with all his audience clamouring for more scenes or movies produce by this porn actor cum director .

On Kah Chuan , who got about a thousand votes means that many delegates in MCA didn't like the pornstar to vote for Kah Chuan . Add that to Donald's votes of 230 who didn't like either OKC or CSL means effectively CSL has only 40% of the votes .
So where did CSL's votes came from ? During the campaign , Jimmy Chua's supporters were campaigning for a Chua/Chua combination . Jimmy received over 800 votes . Assuming half of Jimmy's supporters who voted for Jimmy also voted for CSL , that means CSL himself had less than 700 votes from his supporters . If the percentage of Jimmy's supporters who voted for him were to go higher , CSL would in fact have very much lesser support .
Evidently Jimmy Chua's supporters are throwing their support behind Ong Tee Keat , and that is a fact cause Chua Soi Lek has played Jimmy Chua out twice in his last two party elections and this is pay back time .

On Donald , Chua played him out in the last party election by prematurely announcing he is contesting for a VP without his consent when in actual fact he wanted to go for the DP position . Chua in fact went round the country during his lunch and dinner talks telling everyone that he Donald is an idiot and a fool . Yes indeed , if he Donald were to support him now . Need I say more ?

So who is the Third Force ? Make believe personalities plucked out of thin air , or maybe , just maybe it represents UMNO croonies in Kuala Dimensi and the King from Bintulu , Sarawak .

The Hidden Hand

The Third Force...EMERGED! by Ti Lian Ker

Excerpts from the article: I would like to condemn the recent reemergence of the DVD on Datuk Seri Chua Soi Lek. There is a hidden hand in the entire DVD issue that had damaged MCA as a credible political party. The DVD incident is an incident of the past and Datuk Chua Soi Lek had been an unfortunate victim of these unseen hands rendering him a liability to the party. The DVD is a blemish of the past and ought to be cast out and not continue to last. The reemergence of the DVD is another move by unseen hands to incite emotions, anger and hatred amongst the members to embarrass Datuk Seri Chua Soi Lek calculated to put the blame on the present MCA leadership. MCA delegates must be wary of their unseen hands manipulating the events leading to the ultimate destruction of the party's image and dignity.
Full story here .

Internal and External Forces

While I support what Dato Ti writes , I would have preferred the The Third Force to be labeled as Internal and External forces as those with vested interest to see them lurching at each other , as this would also encompass all those forces who has an interest to see both go off and be replaced by a new team . This was evident even in Ti's blog where there were calls by various parties and commenters to replace the both of them by bringing in Liow and Kong or even Ka Chuan . This is obviously started by these internal forces who sees this as a chance to upsurped power at the expense ot the feud between Ong and Chua liken to the removal of both parents when the father and mother quarrels and replace by surrogate parents .

Externally there's no short of supply of people with vested interest , Tiong for one , certain UMNO MPs , BN MPs ...etc..etc ..




Taken from a page on the shooting of Chen Shui Bian the ex-Taiwan president during campaigning and blame it on your opponent . See here and here

Chen was reportedly shot in the stomach while campaigning in the city of Tainan on Friday, March 19, 2004, the day before polls opened on Saturday. According to Chen, the bullet left a flesh wound that was 11 cm long and 2 cm deep and was found in his clothes. He left the hospital on the same day with 14 stitches. His Vice President Annette Lu was also reportedly shot in the leg in the same incident. After the election, video from the hospital Chen and Lu were taken to showed Chen walking into the hospital after the Presidential Office Secretary General said that he had been taken in. The opposition made many allegations into the conduct of the security and hospital procedures requiring Chen and Lu to change parts of their stories in order for it to make sense. While many theories were put forth, the opposition had no access to the physical evidence so the Criminal Investigation Bureau refuted them.Others believe this was to make Chen and Lu seems sympathetic for the voters due to the unusual circumstances and evidence of the shootings.

The following day, Chen narrowly won the election with a margin of less than 29,500 votes out of 12.9 million votes counted.

Repeat of the Reichstag Fire
















The Reichstag fire (German: Der Reichstagsbrand) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building in Berlin on 27 February 1933. The event is seen as pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.

At 21:25hrs (UTC +1), a Berlin fire station received an alarm call that the Reichstag building, the assembly location of the German Parliament, was ablaze. The fire started in the Session Chamber,[1] and by the time the police and firefighters had arrived, the main Chamber of Deputies was engulfed by flames.

Inside the building, a thorough search conducted by the police resulted in the finding of a naked Marinus van der Lubbe. Van der Lubbe was a Dutch insurrectionist, council communist and unemployed bricklayer who had recently arrived in Germany, ostensibly to carry out his political activities. The fire was used as evidence by the Nazis that the Communists were beginning a plot against the German government. Van der Lubbe and four Communist leaders were subsequently arrested. Adolf Hitler, who had been sworn in as Chancellor of Germany four weeks before, on 30 January, urged President Paul von Hindenburg to pass an emergency decree to counter the "ruthless confrontation of the Communist Party of Germany".[citation needed] With civil liberties suspended, the government instituted mass arrests of Communists, including all of the Communist parliamentary delegates. With them gone, and their seats empty, the Nazis went from being a plurality party to the majority; subsequent elections confirmed this position and thus allowed Hitler to consolidate his power.

Historians disagree as to whether van der Lubbe acted alone or if the Nazis were involved.

My comment . Were the Nazis involved ? If they did , by burning their own parliament , and blaming the fire was started by the Communists , they were able to institute mass arrest of the Communists , and the Nazis went from being a plurality party to the majority and enabling Hitler to consolidate his power . That was how Hitler came into power and the rest is history .

The storyline is the same here . Circulate your own DVD and blame it on your opponent , OTK in this case , hurl all sorts of accusations and keep on saying that it was done by OTK's supporters . This is calculated to instill maximum damage to the party and arousing the anger of Datuk Seri Chua Soi Lek's sympathisers against Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat . Make the central delegates angry and get the central delegates vote for him CSL , that's what they want .

He CSL also said without hestitation , the DVD was sent from Bukit Mertajam based on the post mark . Would a guy who send the DVD do it from his own place ? knowing very well the first thing to look would be the place where it was sent ? So this is obviously sent by his own people under instruction to be sent from Bukit Mertajam . On most cases they would have been distributed and posted from various parts of the country , including overseas to avoid detection . Perhaps the police forensic could help trace the fingerprints left behind on the envelope and on the dvd to determine the culprit .