Sunday, March 21, 2010

Run-up to MCA elections: Stars indicate battle is between the 'monkeys'

2010/03/21

New Straits Times

Feng shui practitioner and master astrologer Lilian Too looks at the 'Ba-Zi' of the three contenders for the MCA presidency and tells TAN CHOE CHOE that it's actually going to be more of a fight between Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and Tan Sri Ong Ka Ting.


Tan Sri Ong Ka Ting: Nov 15, 1956; Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat: Nov 22, 1956; Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek: Jan 2, 1947

THERE is the year, the month and the day of birth. But one small yet equally important detail is missing -- their time of birth.

So, instead of the original eight elemental characters that could be mapped out from their birth dates to see how the elements would clash, mix, punish, bounce off -- i.e. generally interact with one another -- to see into their "life-paths", feng shui practitioner and master astrologer Lilian Too has to make do with six.

But even so, there are some interesting pointers.

"The charts of Tan Sri Ong Ka Ting and Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat are quite similar. Both are Yang Fire Monkeys. In the year of the Tiger, the Monkey's luck is really afflicted by "Wu Wang" (Five Yellow) and is in direct conflict with the "Tai Sui" (Grand Duke Jupiter). But these are feng shui afflictions which are easy to combat with simple remedial cures.


"More importantly, both are currently going through an 'Earth Dragon' Luck Pillar.

"This indicates powerful allies for both of them because the Dragon and Monkey are natural allies. Both will have a lot of supporters."

This means the fourth pillar elements that are to be derived from their hour of birth, would be critical to see who will have the extra edge, she adds.

Looking at Ka Ting's chart, she says it has a lot of Earth, and Earth indicates creativity and intelligence.

"For him, power and rank would be indicated by the element of Water but this year is a Metal Tiger year, which is totally devoid of Water.

"This is not a good indication for Ka Ting and so, despite having supporters, he might lose."

That is, unless his hour elements show a few drops of the life-giving stuff. But this would require him to have been born "in the Water hours, between 9pm to 1am".

Although there is one Water element in what can be seen of his personal chart now, "which helps", it is not enough to bring him victory.

"His chart is too weak overall. His best years have already passed and it is hard to get a second wind."

As for Tee Keat, the element of Earth suggests power and rank and his current luck pillar, the "Earth Dragon" will bring him all that, she adds.


Why then is he facing such an uphill battle to remain in power?

"You have to remember that the Tiger is an enemy of the Monkey and it is tough for the Monkey this year. But he will prevail because in a year short of water elements, he has two in his chart.

"On top of that, his intrinsic element is Yin Water. This brings him a great deal of hidden luck. There will be unseen hands helping him."

Tee Keat also has a secret ally in the Snake and this year is very much a year for Snakes. "So he will be able to borrow the luck of his secret friend. It would greatly add to his prestige and luck if he can forge some kind of alliance with anyone born in the year of the Snake."

So will he triumph against all the challengers to his throne?

"It looks like he can win this election."

As for Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek, she sees that his chart -- or what she has of it -- appears to be very unbalanced with too much Earth.

"To him, Earth represents intelligence. Perhaps this overly abundant Earth indicates he is thinking too much, or being in effect, 'too smart'."

Being 63, he is currently going through a Fire/Earth Luck Pillar -- but he has too much Earth already and short of water and wood. So, like Ka Ting, he is running dry, and the current year is not helping him.

"On top of it, he is a Fire Dog and although the Tiger year is not particularly unfriendly to him, it is also not a strong year for those born in the year of the Dog."

So, on the whole, it looks like the "Dog" is a bit parched and it will be left to the two 'Monkeys' to slug it out.

13 comments:

  1. What we want to know is, if Tee Keat loses, which camp will J4OTK join?

    Pornstar camp or triad camp ?

    Muahahahahaha !

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  2. Do not worry anon 8:10, I bet justice4otk will be like me forever belong to J4OTK camp.

    Rotten Fishhead

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  3. I beg to differ, auntie Lilian Too.

    1. Now we are in the 2nd moon, the month of Rabbit (wet wood)[6 Mar thru 4 April ]. Both Ka Ting & Tee Keat are weak in wood element.They find it hard to seek help from 'wet wood'; though they may derive some help from the year'tiger' --which is 'dry wood'....

    2. Soi Lek's overall luck find its best month in this 'wet wood' (rabbit month).As long as he plans his move well, and is willing to listen ( to the grassroots supporters probably)...he may emerge the winner![As he has too much 'water', the 'wood' month will pull some water away from him.]


    3. Tee Keat & Soi Lek were born on the day of "snake" (though their years belong to "fire monkey" & "fire dog" respectively).The former a "water snake" and the latter "metal snake". Certainly the "metal snake" is useful/helpful to the success of the "water snake" --because the "metal" when melts becomes liquid/water which in turn boost the "water snake".So auntie Lilian's analysis that Tee Keat needed "a snake" is found. We must also not forget the fact that PM Najib is a "snake" (1953)!

    4. The only hindrance for Soi Lek, if any, is that he has too much "metal & water". Those who were born with too much "metal & water" are considered "itchibawah" (ham-sab). So the sex DVD was inevitable!

    5.The dates of birth of both Tee Keat & Ka Ting display the fact that both are "special bred" talent. Both are capable of becoming great leaders due to their intelligence. But the main defect in both of them is that they are bound to face "troubles" in their life. These "troubles" or "hindrances" are going to LIMIT their success in life. This explains why both were not "very successful" as MCA Presidents.

    6. Tee Keat, for eg., was born in the year of monkey which clashed with his month -"pig". His day of birth also clashed with his month of "pig". "Double trouble" as it is termed in Chinese astrology:

    黑蛇+黄猪+红猴 [snake day/pig month/monkey year]

    7. Ka Ting has less trouble. Nevertheless, still trouble: His year of birth clashed with month of birth -pig.This indicates he has "less assistance" from the senior people.

    红狗+黄猪+红猴 [dog day/pig month/monkey year)



    8. Soi Lek only has a bit too much of "metal & water". If MCA delegates choose to "close one eye", it is no surprising that Soi Lek may be elected the new MCA President.

    9. Tee Keat is not, however, without any "reasonable good" chance. The past presidents of MCA all had their surname spelt with "T" & "L".So Ong Ka Ting/Chan Kong Choy/Ong Tee Keat/Chua Soi Lek...are by divine intervention could not become the president. If either one of them became the President, he could not last. Just look at Ka Ting/Tee Keat. Next we will observe that Soi Lek shall suffer the same fate if he wins the 28 Mar election.

    10. If Sdra Ong Tee Keat still wants to continue as the President after 28 March, he must from now "advertise" himself as "TEE KEAT, ONG". That is, highlight his "T". His supporters must call him the same: "TEE KEAT.TEE KEAT.TEE KEAT...." until the "Heaven" is touched!

    11. Ka Ting on the other hand does not have the privilege. Because his "Ting" is his last name. If supporters were to call him "TING TING TING...", it sounds funny and bad (in Cantonese)....

    MAN MAY PLAN HIS DESTINY.IT'S HEAVEN THAT DETERMINES.

    Best wishes to all candidates.

    -Boddhi Lai-

    To check you animal sign, simply click this (free):

    http://www.chineseastrologyonline.com/2010/2010Zodiac.htm

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  4. Correct.Correct.Correct:

    Past Presidents of MCA:

    Tun Tan Cheng Lock
    Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu
    Dr Cheah Toon Lok (Acting)
    Tun Tan Siew Sin
    Tan Sri Lee San Choon
    Datuk Dr Neo Yee Pan (Acting)
    Tan Koon Swan
    Tun Dr Ling Liong Sik
    Dato’ Seri Ong Ka Ting
    Dato' Seri Ong Tee Keat.

    http://www.mca.org.my/English/PastPresidents/Pages/default.aspx

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  5. Now you know why I call Tee Keat "Tee Keat" ?

    Hehehehe

    Oh well, according to my own calculation, Soi Lek will get it this time.

    But then, I am not superstitious (I do know how to do this thing but I do it for fun, not for superstition purpose), let's enjoy the next 7 days, or approximately 170 hours. :)

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  6. 6. Tee Keat, for eg., was born in the year of monkey which clashed with his month -"pig". His day of birth also clashed with his month of "pig". "Double trouble" as it is termed in Chinese astrology:

    So auntie Lilian's analysis that Tee Keat needed "a snake" is found. We must also not forget the fact that PM Najib is a "snake" (1953)!

    MAN MAY PLAN HIS DESTINY.IT'S HEAVEN THAT DETERMINES.
    ----------------------

    I am surprised that Boddhi Lai has forgotten this , but let me put my opinion this way .

    YES , man may plan his destiny ,its heaven that determines
    or
    Its man that proposes and its god that disposes
    which leads us to our karma ! On item 6 , thru doing the righteous ( like opening the can of worms in PKFZ ) one reaps good karma or blessings which will alter ones earthly luck tru devine intervention . Meaning while astrologically one may have extremely bad luck for the year according to the charts , thru doing good and righteous deeds , it will lessen the impact and actually even turn it to positive .- DIVINE intervention

    On PM Najib is a snake - that's an accurate assumption so are those helping out Tee Keat in countering all the spins in Blogs . You'll be surprised even the DEVAS are helping out !

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  7. Lilian was right, now the arena is zoo-like. But I still think that this is just another publicity stunt by her. If she 'guessed' correctly, even Najib will come to her....good try.

    GOOD TRY

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  8. Sdra Justice4OTK,

    I won't argue with you over your posting above. For you have your points.

    I myself didn't rule out TEE KEAT yet.Tomorrow is still unpredictable!

    What I posted above is strictly "reading" from the analysis of their LiuZi (6 words' instead of Bazi--8 words), i.e., very academic approach, without taking into consideration divine intervention and/or the rule of karma....

    -Boddhi Lai-

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  9. Anon 12:27 wrote,

    ""Lilian was right, now the arena is zoo-like. But I still think that this is just another publicity stunt by her. If she 'guessed' correctly, even Najib will come to her....good try."

    Auntie Lilian is a businesswoman. She knows when to strike! hehehe

    Unfortunately, one of her disciples, Sdra Datuk Chua Jui Meng,was sent to "Holland" already due to her advice....

    Otherwise, had Jui Meng stayed in the MCA, he would have some vital role to play --either for himself or TEE KEAT!

    -Boddhi Lai-

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  10. My learned friend (x-media man), Brader Johnny Chew wrote in the Malaysian Mirror (Chinese version):

    (1)PRESIDENCY:

    (a) Chua Soi Lek has 1,000 votes (solid)(42%);

    (b) Ong Ka Ting has 860 votes (together with Liow's supporters)(36%);

    (c) TEE KEAT, Ong has 525 votes (22%)

    (2) DEPUTY PRESIDENCY:

    (a) Kang Cho Ha = 1,000 votes (+ 525 votes from Tee Keat)

    (b) Liow Tiong Lai = 860 votes.

    He further wrote that at least minister will lose his post, and the beneficiary is none other that FZC Wee Ka Siong....

    http://www.malaysianmirror.com/cn/index.html

    -AIXIN-

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  11. Oh wow !

    Who would think that a Chinese - Tee Keat - needs a Melayu - Najib - in order to survive??

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  12. Brothers and sisters, please do not depend on luck or lucky star and lucky has to depend on luck itself......MCA members and especially hopefully the CDs are educated and well informed of the candidates' capability and capacity to serve without having to carry any baggages......
    MCA election has become so comical and sandiwara-like ....WKS and CMF have been claiming that their wings are not involved in the fresh polls but when LTL announced his candidacy LTL was flanked by both of them to show their support..on what capacity I wonder...if LTL loses in the election I hope it is taken as voting of no confidence against the two leaders...they should quit then...

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  13. Master Lilian Too.....you must be joking!!

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