Sunday, November 29, 2009

Liow , Go Fly Kite

Tee Keat dismisses party polls in 60 days











By Lee Wei Lian

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 29 — MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat brushed aside the "declaration" adopted by his rivals that fresh party polls should be held in 60 days.

He also blasted estranged party vice-president Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai for suggesting that the party's annual general meeting (AGM), scheduled for Dec 5, should be postponed.

"Anyone can make claims (regarding fresh poll dates) but what is important is that they follow due process and follow the constitution," said the Transport Minister.

A briefing held by Liow and his allies yesterday and attended by about 1,000 members and delegates had endorsed a statement, called the 1128 declaration that called for fresh elections in 60 days.

Ong (picture) said that parties wanting the AGM to be postponed should have referred the matter to the party's central committee and not show a "lack of discipline" by making public announcements.

Ong declined to disclose any possible dates for fresh elections in MCA but said it would be dependent on whether there would be elections at the Youth and Wanita wings and whether it would be done via a new direct elections model as opposed to the current proportional one.

Youth chief Datuk Dr Wee Ka Siong and Wanita chief Datin Paduka Chew Mei Fun had yesterday expressed their opposition to fresh polls in the junior wings as preferred by their rivals.

Ong denied rumours that he was in London negotiating a defection to PKR and blamed unidentified parties linked to the scandal-hit Port Klang Free Zone project for the "baseless slander".

Asked when would he meet Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muyhiddin Yasin to discuss a solution to the MCA power struggle, Ong replied that what was important was communication and that he had been in communication with Muhyiddin.

49 comments:

  1. OTK was just on NTV7's Mandarin news at 5:30, and he really bagi the FGZs !!

    Syiok la !!

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  2. As a non MCA Chinese, I can walk with my head up now, well said Datuk Seri.

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  3. Fuck him off LTL, he bluff thro the nose. Last time in 2002, team B employed the same strategy to bluff, conspired with chinese businessman to bluff together. LTL, CKC got thro with it. Now the same strategy cannot succees already. Politics of deception cannot sell anymore. yesterday 1128 EGM converted to 1128 briefing bcos lack of quorum. Everybody knows about it. LTL says a lot people want fresh election, you know what it refer to ? Everybody means those kepoci outside the party, who knows nothing about party laws and constitutions. To them you have got a little bit of money, employ people to write speech and statement in chinese press, you appear to be very powerful. In actual fact, these are semi-illiterate, how can they represent the chinese community.

    Call one of those so-called chinese leader to appear b4 TV camera without prepared text, if they dare to, i cut my co*k straightaway.

    Cocky people

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  4. Code of Conduct please

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  5. This is a good statement. OTK should stay firm with his conditions for fresh polls.

    1. All wings must be included in the fresh polls
    2. Use the direct elections system

    Otherwise, negotiations are off and they have to play as a team !

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  6. Veteran Debater11/29/2009 07:55:00 PM

    Dear Cocky people,

    Listening to the lost souls talk, anytime, anywhere we the J4OTK bloggers will take on them. Impromptu. Any topic regarding MCA. We are no simple people who can be taken for a ride.

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  7. j4otk. If you show the picture in MCA ceramah, people will laugh at you and MCA. Then they will vote for DAP. Cheers!

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  8. Dear All

    Finally, the OTK, fearless leader that we know !

    MCA Watcher

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  9. OTK said on NTV4 at 8PM, 'I don't care who proposes' the 1128 declaration on fresh poll in 60 days is the way to go. I don't care what you said, you have to follow the majority. What this implies is there will be no fresh election next year. Do you hear it, do I have to repeat it. It is very clear, the GUP is now in place and all MCA members must start implementing it. I don't know how LTL and group feel when they heard him say,'I don't care who proposes'... it is obvious that the present leadership is in command. Don't play with me, that s the ultimatum. It would be interesting from this day forth. Hooray

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  10. That Toh You Tin guy is playing "Who's the boss" right now.

    He has ordered OTK, CSL, LTL as well as MCA's sec gen to meet him tonite.

    I know that he is the DPM, but does he have the right to do what he is doing?

    Why should MCA people listen to a non-MCA member?

    Why ???

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  11. Oh man !

    I am not a religious guy but I am praying for OTK !!!

    Please OTK, for MCA's sake, DON'T BACK DOWN !!!

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  12. Kalambong

    Tell you later not now........

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  13. The DPM wants to visit Sandakan in Sabah soon. The first thing he come the reporters will want him to comment MCA. WHY YOU CAN RESPECT MINORITY & IGNORE THE WILL OF MAJORITY ? WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF DEMOCRAZY IN MCA ? WHY MCA WANITA & YOUTH CRYING AND WHY THEY CAN REJECT RE-ELECTION ? IS UMNO WANT TO CAMPUR TANGAN MCA AFFAIRS ? DPM visits the strongest opposition base in Sabah where DAP has 4 terms Parliment victory ( The present MP Liew Vui Keong - can only confirm as winner after court case ), even apek & aunties very clear about MCA politic , people like to see what the new DPM to say .

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  14. MCA must fight them.

    Anyway MCA would be better if they withdraw from BN, one of the reason MCA lost badly in 0308 election is because of UMNO racial policy.....

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  15. DPM wants the MCA to be disunited under minority senselessness gila

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  16. It's obvious Armno wants MCA to be weak so that they can control it. They can forget about the Chinese support if they interfere into MCA matters. Tell the whole world that UNLESS ALL CC MEMBERS ASK FOR THEIR HELP, they only get involved. To hell with ARMNO leaders who doesn't do what they said!!

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  17. Aiyah. Put Liow, Wee and Chew in gunny sacks and drown them.Then end of all story.

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  18. why can't DPM wait after AGM? does he want to stop the AGM? no way

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  19. Hishammuddin Hopes Fresh Elections Will Resolve MCA Crisis

    KLUANG, Nov 29 (Bernama) -- Umno vice-president Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein hopes that fresh elections will be held to help resolve the prolonged MCA crisis.

    He said the MCA crisis need to be resolved fast as it could affect other Barisan Nasional component parties like Umno and MIC.

    "I hope that fresh elections will meet the members wishes and resolve the MCA crisis," he said after opening a motivation and leadership course of Sembrong MCA division here on Sunday.

    Hishammuddin was commenting a statement by MCA vice-president Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai that the special briefing yesterday had passed a declaration urging that fresh election for central committee(CC) members be held in 60 days.

    The briefing organised by Liow's faction also accepted a proposal to amend Article 46 of the constitution that vice-presidents, ministers and deputy ministers be automatically appointed to the CC.

    Currently, the appointments are at the prerogative of the MCA president.
    BERNAMA

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  20. LTL and the gang really have great supporters that being politically decepted

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  21. PKFZ conspirators

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  22. Last Saturday LTL said this:

    "Liow said the 13 had signed resignation letters and given their approval for the lettersto be submitted to the party at the right time.

    "However, there is a hitch: fresh polls can be held only if one third of the CC quits. This means Liow has to get seven more members of the powerful committee to resign, a daunting task given the powerful hold that party president Ong Tee Keat and his deputy, Chua Soi Lek, have on the CC...."

    The 13 CC members are:

    1.拿督斯里廖中萊 (LTL)
    2.陳國煌(VP Tan Kok Hong)
    3.李偉傑(Lee Wei Kiat)
    4.何國忠博士(Dr.How Kok Chung)
    5.拿督尤綽韜 (Madam Yu Chok Tow)
    6.王乃志(Wong Nai Chee)
    7.拿督黃日昇(Wee Jack Seng)
    8.拿督何啟文(Hoh Khai Mun)
    9.拿督廖潤強(Liew Yuen Keong)
    10.拿督黃祥輝(Wong Siong Hwee)
    11.拿督黃木良(Wong Mook Leong)
    12.拿督丘克海(Khoo Keok Hai)
    13. Yeow Chai Tiam

    http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2009-11-28&sec=mas&art=1128mab94a50.txt

    Assuming that it is correct to state that the CC only has 30 members (The Constitution appears to be saying 11+25 elected members=36; minus the Organising Sec=35 members???), LTL's gang needs another seven(7) CC members to join them (in resignation).

    The Chines Press speculatively reported that DPM would get (force?) those CC members who got govt posts to sign up also: Namely Kong Cho Har,Ng Yen Yen,Lee Chee Leong,& Sec-Gen Wong Foon Meng --altogether four(4) CC members already.

    If 13+4=17 already.

    Does this mean Liow need another three(3) before the CC has to retire to make way for a fresh election???

    Wah! This is getting very thrilling & "Kan-Cheong" man!

    FURTHER, the China Press reported at midnite just now that our President was in HUKM --sick/went for treatment....CSL confirmed that OTK was in the hospital on Sunday nite:

    http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2009-11-30&sec=mas&art=1130mab94a19.txt

    I hope the President would GET WELL SOON, and return to work healthily, and of course, face the cruel political reality WISELY & TACTFULLY.

    YOU FA 尤發

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  23. The Brutus Khoo Keok Hai orientated in Sandakan, he has joined Party Bersatu Sabah (PBS) and appointed as town councilor . Later joined MCA and owning a newspaper which on-line with KWANG WAH , use this paper promotes Brutus LTL/CMF/WKS and degraded OTK & CSL. The Brutus Khoo cannot receive support from his home town and use his power to stand in Kota Kinablu , Brutus Khoo has shown full support to OKT & LLS .

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  24. One more topic to ask DPM - Ministers to sign rsignation letter to force MCA to make a fresh party election ? Never has this happening in this country . Those who signed the letter should make it clear to the public and not from the China Press. In future all candidates from BN need to sign an EXTRA RESIGNATION LETTER if they want to stand up to be a candidate. What a mess !

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  25. Clear cut Najib+Muhyiddin tunduk to FGZs

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  26. Najib/Muhyiddin/Kerismudin shouted "HIDUP ONG KA CHUAN"
    Home Minister

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  27. Anon 1.34 AM said

    Liow needs another 3

    Mahyudin must FORCE OTK and CSL to step down ma simple
    that 2 just another

    Or maybe Mahyudin reserved the FORCE to Najib

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  28. As an MCA we have to respect the Constitution. Besides we also have a Pledge which reads FOLLOW YOUR LEADER AND LOYALTY TO OUR MOTHERLAND. What are these trouble-makers trying to prove. If they cannot follow their leader they should resign from the PARTY.

    Veteran

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  29. why WKS and CMF not in the 13 CC that signed... but they are amongst the 16 CC that want the 1128EGM and both of them demanded fresh polls something wrong in the constitutions? or are they ruled the Code of Conduct?

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  30. Both of them is higher then the CC altogether... Extra Power?

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  31. Read some news saying OTK in Hospital...
    How is our Leader doing currently?
    Kalambong, monk, Justice4otk, any news?
    good news bad news?
    16cc signed for egm includes those who are appointed.
    13cc are only those elected, therefore they need another 7...cuz a total of 30.

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  32. Do you guys realize one thing?

    Toh You Tin, in forcing OTK to resign, is harboring a discourse in between component parties that made up Barisan Nasional.

    In other words, if Toh You Tin refuses to immediately stop what he has been doing for the past few weeks, he will become an enemy and a traitor to Barisan Nasional !

    If the 2nd in command of the largest party of the Barisan Nasional becomes a traitor to the same Barisan Nasional, what will happen next ?

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  33. The effin 13 ghosts. I am just amazed that we still have idiots like them. If MCA is made up of such effin people, then it is best to closed own MCA. Effin running dogs.

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  34. Who are the 'another" 7 amongst the rest 17 elected

    are they willing to sell their souls to the MCA backstabbers

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  35. If this 13 ghost is not happy with the current leadership all they can do is resign and form a new party align to barisan so they can have their position in tact.

    but they are sacred, they need booboodin to cover their asses...theya re scared to take the risk, they always think they'll lose all...

    Armnoo...will welcome them as they are good pet dogs, unlike mca, cannot be tamed and self willed. even PM & DPM do not get what they want out of mca thanks to OTK.

    Surprisingly, alot of people who actually support the brutuses does not realize this fact that, by supporting the brutuses = selling out the pride, dignity, privellage and rights of the malaysian chinese.

    just because of brutuses and your self interest you forgo all chinese in the country?

    KICK OF THE BRUTUSES~!!!

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  36. MCA backstabbers non then AMRno

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  37. Boss is well , nothing to worry , possible stress due to the hectic schedule he has been subjected to . From jetting back from London straight to the meetings and all the functions .
    needs a few days to completely recover .

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  38. glad to hear that.
    I believe jus4otk can visit on our behalf~!
    now more, serious issue...
    regarding yesterdays meeting with booboodin...
    anyone knows whats the outcome,
    some said, minister are forced to resign...but thats speculative....so any updates on that?

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  39. President 1
    Deputy President 1
    Vice President 4
    CCMs (elected) 25
    CCMs (appointed)

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  40. Nothing came out of it ....don't listen to all the crap coming out from LTL's rumor mongers .

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  41. 7 cc - wah very easy aleady man.

    7 million $ can or not ah?

    S'wak tiong brothers have plenty of cash.

    7 kataks by next week.

    PRince Frog.

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  42. if its PKR or DAP perhaps 'katak pisang'
    not MCA less brutuses

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  43. appointed automatically VPs 2 Youth Cheif and Women Cheif : the extra power VPs

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  44. Anon 10:18 asked:

    "why WKS and CMF not in the 13 CC that signed..."

    Anon 11:07 wrote:

    "President 1
    Deputy President 1
    Vice President 4
    CCMs (elected) 25
    CCMs (appointed)"

    1. Memang confusing one....

    2. I read and re-read the MCA Constitution a few times....I can't tell wh is correct: 30 CC members only or 36 CC members???

    3. Let me post the Article 38:

    38. There shall be a Central Committee consisting of:

    38.1 The President;
    38.2 The Deputy President;
    38.3 The Secretary-General;
    38.4 The Vice-Presidents; [6 VPs]
    38.5 The Treasurer-General;
    38.6 The National Organising Secretary;[sacked]
    38.7 Twenty-five (25) delegates to the General Assembly
    to be elected by the General Assembly; and
    38.8 Not more than eight (8) members to be appointed by the President.


    4. So it appears that CC has 36 ELECTED members (35 if minus the organising sec who was sacked)AND eight(8) APPOINTED members.

    5. PLEASE NOTE: WKS & CMF are VPs. So they are automatic CC members. They didn't sign MAYBE becoz LTL's loyar also couldn't identify whether they are "the elected CC members"....

    -LoyarBeruk-

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  45. Anon 10:49 asked:

    Who are the other 7 ?

    Hehehehehe.

    You can choose from this list as published by the China Press on 1128:

    ★挺翁派票選中委[PRO-OTK]

    1.拿督斯里翁詩傑(OTK)
    2.拿督斯里江作漢(Kong Cho Har)
    3.拿督王茀明(Wong Foon Meng)
    4.陳清涼(Tan Cheng Liang)
    5.拿督李志亮(Lee Chee Leong)
    6.顏炳壽(Gan Peng Sieu)
    7.拿督鄭聯科(Ti Lian Ker)
    8.拿督江承俊(Kong Sing Chu,Paul)
    9.拿督陸垠佑(Loke Yuen Yow)
    10.傅子初(Por Choo Chor)

    ★挺蔡派票選中委 [PRO-CSL]

    1.拿督斯里蔡細歷醫生(CSL)
    2.拿督斯里黃燕燕醫生(Ng Yen Yen)
    3.拿督張日洲(Chong Itt Chew)
    4.拿督斯里陳財和(Tan Chai Ho)
    5.盧誠國(Loh Seng Kok)
    6.鄭修強(Tee Siew Keong)
    7.拿督顏天祿(Gan Tian Loo)

    Please get your SIFU to view their faces here (to determine who may be next FGZs...hahahah):

    http://www.mca.org.my/English/Leadership/Pages/MCACentralCommitteeMembers.aspx

    We must admit that DPM can easily MANIPULATE/PRESSURISE those CC members who hold govt posts. Eg. Kong Cho Har, Ng Yen Yen, Lee Chee Leong, Wong Foon Meng (Dewan Negara President),Heng Seai Kie, & elected CC Mah Hang Soon (Perak State EXCO).

    Umno actually "can do" anything to achieve what they "planned" to happen....Watch out especially this veteran: Tengku Adnan (Umno Sec-Gen).

    IN CHINESE COMMUNITY WE ARE SO USED TO NOTE SO MANY FGZ/TRAITORS/RUNNING DOGS. SO THESE 13 GHOSTS ARE NO EXCEPTIONLAH!

    CAUTION: OTK faction must keep CSL faction COMFORTABLE & FRIENDLY all the times....

    Otherwise, as you may notice from the breakdown of CC members above, OTK "shall" be in serious trouble (worst than Sunday nite stomach disorder, man!)and may be GROUNDED. Teochew apek CSL may be the new President--like or not....

    MAYDAY!MAYDAY!


    WEDNESDAY's CC MEETING (2 Dec) will show some/further signs)....

    BEST WISHES FOR HAILAM TAIKO!

    Vietnam Chai.

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  46. GUP is the key. AGM will confirm it

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  47. GUP has 29 CCMs signatures

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